Self cancelling solution

[BiKenG]

Many CrossTourer owners are unsatisfied with Honda's self-cancelling indicator feature. I've not tried it yet, but it sounds inadequate. The suggested fix is to disconnect the wheel speed (Fr and Rr) signal wires from the relay so it thinks the bike is stationary and hence never cancels.

Alternatively, swap for the earlier relay that had no such feature. Everything matches up (except WSS wires), but I've no idea if the actual connector block is the same pin layout. Knowing Honda, quite possibly not, but that can be adjusted.

Ok those simply disable the feature rather than make it work better. So next step…

For many years I've been using the self-cancelling indicator module from:-

https://st2-systems.com

These work brilliantly. I virtually never have to override and turn them off, or on again as they cancel too early. A godsend to me as I seem to be incapable of remembering to turn them off otherwise. It's nothing to do with my ability to ride a bike. Just the way my brain works. I am unable to even remember to take life saving medication without electronic reminders. Anyway…

The only issue with any add-on is adapting the handlebar switch to NOT latch. I've manufactured a small adapter piece to perfectly convert Honda switches, but failed to come up with anything worthwhile for my Triumph Thruxton.

Now I'm thinking about the CrossTourer. The pre '14 bikes have that mechanical latch that I think can be adapted, but the later bikes have a different switch that doesn't latch. Instead, pushing in the button activates another switch that triggers the relay to stop flashing. At least I think that's how it works. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Fortunately, ST2 Systems offer a module that can work with both types of switch. So early and late CrossTourers could make use of ST2's extremely good self-cancelling system. Later bikes will need the speed signals disconnected (or use early relay) and both will need some wiring jiggery pokery (that I've not yet worked out) to hook it all up. The net result though would be a CrossTourer with a very good self cancelling indicator system, which is more than can be said for Honda's offering.

If sufficient numbers are interested, it might be worth organising a 'group buy'?

[Caper]

I don't have any problems with Honda's self-canceling indicator feature, why do you say that many CrossTourer owners are unsatisfied with that feature?
It works very well and rarely fails to turn off.

[BiKenG]

I say it because of all the complaints I've read about Honda's effort on here.

The problem appears to be not that they fail to turn off, but that they turn off too early. The timing seems to be a very basic evaluation of time and speed and for many, that means they so often turn off too early. Same as for the CrossRunner (and maybe VFR800F of same age) for which the recommended solution is to remove the speed signal which prevents them from ever cancelling.

To be clear, I've not tried them yet. Last CrossTourer I rode was pre '14, but from the experiences stated on here, I have no doubt I will find them inadequate.

Whereas I have used the ST2 system on several bikes and it works very well indeed. Not only does it use speed and time parameters, but it also has a lean angle sensor so it knows if you're travelling in a straight line or just been around a bend etc. As I said, it works very well and if Honda's system is in any way inferior, then I will disable it and install an ST2.

I started this thread just to let those who are unsatisfied with Honda's system know that there is an alternative that works.