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    Replacement for the VFR?
    on: Dec 20, 2020, 02.42 am
    Dec 20, 2020, 02.42 am
    https://www.hondaprokevin.com/new-2022-honda-cb1100x-adventure-motorcycle-sneak-peek

    Not sure if you all follow this site but he is generally very knowledgeable.   Nice looking mock ups.   

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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #1 on: Dec 20, 2020, 07.53 am
    Dec 20, 2020, 07.53 am
    Looks like is has chain, not shaft.
    I would consider new bike, but with shaft only.

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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #2 on: Dec 20, 2020, 02.49 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 02.49 pm
    I like shaft drive also. My own speculation about the characteristics and features that may (hypothetically) be added to the bike make it interesting to me.  Potentially lower weight than the VFR, better gas mileage, rider programmable DCT, fuel economy, are all appealing to me.  Just like I overlook some of the things I'd like changed on the VFR I could overlook the chain drive if it compensates in other areas important to me.   I do not miss cleaning chains.   I have to maintain the chain on my wife's bike today as a matter of fact...which is a couple hundred overdue.     

    I am searching for a lighter bike.  My riding patterns have changed significantly.  I know wishing is meaningless, but I would love a 520 pounder, with 75 85 HP, DCT, with as much room as the VFR, with shaft drive.   

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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #3 on: Dec 20, 2020, 03.43 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 03.43 pm
    Dont really see that bike as a replacment for the CT.  In todays market less than 100 BHP in this class is just not enough to make it a top seller.
    If anything it looks like a replacement for the CBF1000.
    I dont buy the whole thing that they cant get the 1200 V4 motor through emissions, BMW can get that boxer engine through and Ducati have done it.
    Mentions in the article it could be a seller.  Take the current CT, facelift and stick the tech that the AT has on it and it will sell by the bucket load. Just needs Honda to put the effort in, something they never have done with the CT.


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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #4 on: Dec 20, 2020, 04.14 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 04.14 pm
    The new Multistrada V4 has set the bar very high.

    IF Honda wanted to compete (and that's a big if) they'd need to update the HP output, electronics, and dash at a minimum.

    Will they?  I doubt it.

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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #5 on: Dec 20, 2020, 04.20 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 04.20 pm
    *Originally Posted by mzflorida [+]
    https://www.hondaprokevin.com/new-2022-honda-cb1100x-adventure-motorcycle-sneak-peek?fbclid=IwAR3FYNQUGrew6ICx_-SPJ8Fb3qDnuyMYQG_Ww2C5m1f2fvkLGzzYaShGBIE

    Not sure if you all follow this site but he is generally very knowledgeable.   Nice looking mock ups.

    By the by...

    This quote from the article made me laugh as that is precisely what I did. Exhaustively researched and test - rode both and made the clear choice for the VFRX. Never looked back.


    "I don’t think the VFR1200X ever had a chance lined up next to the Africa Twin. I have never had a customer consider the Africa Twin and opt to go with the VFR1200X over the years."

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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #6 on: Dec 20, 2020, 06.21 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 06.21 pm
    I tried an AT before I bought my second CT. wasnt wowed by it at all.
    That said, the new one is a better proposition with all the toys that the market expects.

    However, a brand new CT can be had for a little over 10k the mo. That is a lot of bike for the money.


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    Re: Replacement for the VFR?
    Reply #7 on: Dec 20, 2020, 07.10 pm
    Dec 20, 2020, 07.10 pm
    *Originally Posted by mzflorida [+]
    https://www.hondaprokevin.com/new-2022-honda-cb1100x-adventure-motorcycle-sneak-peek

    Not sure if you all follow this site but he is generally very knowledgeable.   Nice looking mock ups.
    Before buying the CT I test rode the Crossrunner -ideal power,loved the vtec  but no DCT so that was out.The Africa Twin nearly dislocated my titanium right hip with the extra high rack-so that was out.My NC 750  DCT was not powerful enough to excite. So the ideal bike for me would be a 900cc DCT with maybe 85hp and less weight than the lardy CT.

     



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