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    Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    on: Jun 23, 2020, 05.59 am
    Jun 23, 2020, 05.59 am
    Greetings, my name is Brian.
    I am considering an adventure-ish style bike for the upright riding position and all day riding comfort not for riding offroad.  I have narrowed the search down to the Yamaha Tenere, Kawasaki Versys 1000 and 1200x but I really like the shaft drive and V4 of the Honda, now with the concerns.
    The leftover bikes can be purchased brand new relatively cheap, around $9k for manual or about $10k for DCT but they are outdated, discontinued models and losing value everyday while collecting dust in dealers warehouses.  They weren't popular or high selling, only available as '16 and '17 models in the U.S. and are no longer in production.
    As much as like the bike, I feel like I would be throwing money away, taking a huge hit on value on a nearly 4 year old bike that they don't even make any more.
    Am I in a losing position before even taking one home?  How will parts availability be in a few years?  Am I looking at this from the correct perspective?
    Any thoughts or advise is welcome.
    Thanks, guys.

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #1 on: Jun 23, 2020, 07.47 am
    Jun 23, 2020, 07.47 am
    Since most here have a Crosstourer and like, sorry, I meant LOVE it, you’re probably asking the wrong people. No one here bought their bike as an investment, they just wouldn’t let go of them, the grin factor is just too big.
    Have you ridden one? If not, give it a try. And if you’re worried about devaluation, take a look at the figures on a GS, especially a brand new one. Now that’ll make your eyes water

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #2 on: Jun 23, 2020, 11.45 am
    Jun 23, 2020, 11.45 am
    Really? Ride all your choices then get back to us. If you want investments buy gold or stocks, if you want one of the best bikes ever built and the biggest grin on your face buy the VFRX. The Tenere is a tractor, the Versys will buzz your hands and feet to sleep and neither can hold a candle to the Crosstourer. They were imported for two years and then killed off by Honda due to Euro emissions along with a bunch of other bikes across all manufacturers. I've owned about 25 bikes over 50 years, this is the first one two years on I am still crazy about, for me its a keeper forever. But saying that, different strokes, your money buy what trips your trigger. I know for me, the other two you mentioned couldn't even get it out of the holster. Its a no frills bike, just a throttle and HP. It handles great, smooth and has gobs of TQ. No cruise or other electronic aids other than TQ control. Parts are mandated by federal law to be available for 10 years, but its a Honda, you wont need many unless you crash. Accessories are available but limited. What the bike lacks I would not be willing to pay for anyway, if you want all the electronic aids this isnt the bike, if you want to ride and have fun with bulletproof reliability this is the bike. Ride them, that will answer alot of your questions. 
    Last Edit: Jun 23, 2020, 11.58 am by DaveinNC

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #3 on: Jun 23, 2020, 11.48 am
    Jun 23, 2020, 11.48 am
    Brian,  I just bought a new leftover 2017 manual VFR1200X three weeks ago.  Seven hundred miles of riding curvy New England country roads, state highways with sweeping curves, and on an interstate highway have impressed me with this bike’s versatility.  Build quality is impeccable, the venerable Honda V-4 is awesome, and, for me, I don’t need ride modes, or an electrically adjustable  windshield, or TFT instrumentation, etc.  BTW, the manually adjustable windshield standard on the 2017 model is a great design.  As you probably know, these bikes were sold in the U.S. for only two years because Honda held off introducing them here until the dollar/yen exchange rate made U.S. sales possible.  Crosstourers in Europe were sold for several years before the bike came here, so there are many more bikes there than in the U.S.  —- check out the forum member map. 

    Check out each of the bikes you are considering and let us know what you ultimately decided.

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #4 on: Jun 23, 2020, 04.37 pm
    Jun 23, 2020, 04.37 pm
    Thank you for all of the comments and insight.  The Honda is the only one that I haven't taken out for a test ride,- the Versys and Tenere are much easier to get ahold of since they are still in production and readily available. Still trying to find the Honda locally for a test ride.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #5 on: Jun 23, 2020, 05.40 pm
    Jun 23, 2020, 05.40 pm
    Hi Brian, 10k for a DCT, im not sure what the prices of the other bikes in the US are but im pretty sure youre not going to get more bang for buck than the Honda. Yep its a model thats going out of production but if you really like it and keep it for say 4-5 years youll certainly get your moneys worth at that price.

    Granted the CT doesnt have all the bells and whistles, im pretty sure if it had have done it would have been a real success, but it stops and goes,it goes very well in fact and build quality is very good.

    Whatever you do, try to get a go on manual and DCT, a good long test ride on the DCT. Ive had both, for me, DCT is the way to go.
     Just for the record im not a Honda fanboy, if Yamaha brought out a new SuperTen id probably go for that but 9 to 10k, its a no brainer for me.

    Good luck with your search.
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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #6 on: Jun 23, 2020, 10.36 pm
    Jun 23, 2020, 10.36 pm
    I bought the manual version in January.  I then traded it and lost $1500.  I then paid $11,300 for the brand new DCT version.  So, I actually paid $12,800 (with loss) to get the DCT model.  Do you get it?  People who have ridden this bike love it!  You can read my post "Traded manual for DCT".  I am aware that this is a discontinued model and still went ahead and bought it second time. 

    I also bought 5 year extended warranty (paid extra) from the dealer.  So, I am covered for 1 + 5 = 6 years. 
    Last Edit: Jun 23, 2020, 10.45 pm by Asct17

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    Re: Considering a 1200X but have concerns
    Reply #7 on: Jun 23, 2020, 11.38 pm
    Jun 23, 2020, 11.38 pm
    @Hartley and @Asct17, thank you for the info and opinions.  Between the V4, shaft drive and the DCT, she sure is intriguing.