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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #24 on: January 26, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Just a quick follow up. 

It's been 3k miles since I replaced two spokes and re-torqued all the remaining spokes.    Everything's working fine, no additional loose or broken spokes.

In the end, it cost me only $2.21 each for the spoke/nut assemblies.   And I bought 3 spares of each of the two part numbers just in case... 

Most expensive part was to pay the dealer $80 to analyse the problem on a 14 month old bike.   I could probably write Honda a letter and they would do something for me...  but I haven't done that.   

I'll write it off as a fluke.   I've bought many new Honda's over the years, and can't think of a problem with any of them.   In comparison, my Tuono V4 had two recalls, a warranty replacement of the stator, and I had to pay for a couple of repairs they called "wear items' (6 valves out of spec at 9k miles loud enough to think it was bad cams).   

Plus, this new CB1000R is really catching my eye...   not to replace the VFR1200x mind you, but it maybe a suitable replacement for the Tuono...   
History of bikes: '80 XL185s, '87 Ninja 250, '89 EX500, '91 ZX6, '84 KZ700a, '86 Ninja 1000R, '98 VFR800, '93 CBR600F2, '00 CBR929rr, '98 VFR800 (2nd VFR), '88 VTR250, '97 YZF1000 Thunderace, '05 GSXR600 (current), '00 YZ425F Sumo, '03 Tuono 1000r, '03 YZ450F Sumo, '03 VFR800 ABS (3rd VFR), '06 KTM Superduke, '01 VFR800 (4th VFR current), '12 Aprilia Tuono V4 (current), '89 Hawk GT, '93 CBR900RR (current), 1999 TT-R 250, 2014 CBR1000RR SP, 2007 KTM 450EXC (current), 2016 VFR1200X (5th VFRcurrent

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #25 on: April 17, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
Just went to my local independent mechanic for some new tyres all round and he mentioned that the tension in the rear wheel spokes was not as it should be - odd considering that a Honda main dealer had just done the 16k service a week before, but that's another story.

Anyway to cut a long story short, he tightened them up and asked if I was heavy and aggressive on the throttle. His experience suggests that especially with low down torquey engines the rotational forces through the wheel will cause the spokes to stretch slightly and therefore need tightening. This is magnified if you're a bit handy on the throttle too! Eventually he said they will need to be re-spoked (many, many miles in the future!!) and loose/stretched spokes would be considered a maintenance item. Having said that I think you'd have a good warranty shout on a spoke that broke in under 10k miles.

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #26 on: January 24, 2020, 12:44:43 PM
Hi, I have had a lot of issues with the spokes , I have to say that I do ride many miles in bad roads. AT first around 16000 miles there were 3 spokes broken , that I changed and en the nexts mile more broke, a total of 10 spokes that i replaced also.  since I was currently breaking the spokes I decided to change all of them and torque them correctly. once I did this everything seams to be ok. if you change the spokes it is very important to torque them correctly.

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #27 on: January 25, 2020, 01:36:29 AM
Yup.  Spokes are a  maintenance item.  10 minute job, $40.00 wrench.  Definitely saves your tires.  Could save your hindside too. 

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #28 on: March 30, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
*Originally Posted by mzflorida [+]
Yup.  Spokes are a  maintenance item.  10 minute job, $40.00 wrench.  Definitely saves your tires.  Could save your hindside too.

How are you checking the inside spoke (closest to the brake rotor) tension in 10 minutes?  The wheel must come off, no?

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #29 on: March 30, 2020, 09:19:04 PM
Yes , to access those spokes you must take out the rear wheel , also with the wheel out it is easier to work. as I tighten the spokes I mark them just to keep track

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #30 on: March 30, 2020, 09:20:13 PM
check the front spokes , the get loose also

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Re: found two spokes completely unthreaded in my rear wheel
Reply #31 on: March 31, 2020, 12:10:39 PM
Mine were loose after the first 4000 miles, they need to be torque checked to 49-inch pounds. My torque values were all over the place and only about 20% of my spokes were to spec. The rear wheel must be removed to do it properly. Verify wheel true with a dial indicator when finished. The bike lays over into turns now like a Disney roller coaster. This should be checked at every service interval. It would have been nice for some cast wheel options for this bike. The F model cast rear-wheel bolts right on, the front not so easy. 
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