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    Final Drive Oil Change question
    on: Jan 10, 2018, 08.58 pm
    Jan 10, 2018, 08.58 pm
    2016 1200x. Do you check the FD oil on the side stand or with the bike level? Owners manual says nothing, service manual says with the bike level. I think its checked on the side stand or you would be adding more than 6.8 oz/200mil to see it level with the fill hole. I could swear that all the other shaft driven bikes I've owned were checked with the bike level. I'm a little particular when it comes to things like this and I cant seem to find anything here.
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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #1 on: Jan 10, 2018, 09.08 pm
    Jan 10, 2018, 09.08 pm
    My manual (european CT ´12) states draining while having the bike on the side stand. Fill with the bike leveled (e.g. center stand or equivalent). Filling with multigrade e.g. 80w90 seems like a bad option. Use HYPOID SAE 80 only (single grade) GL-4.
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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #2 on: Jan 11, 2018, 02.21 pm
    Jan 11, 2018, 02.21 pm
    Bike to be level on its wheels.( there is a difference to being level on its wheels and level on its centre stand).
    Just put 200mls in, I use a syringe that holds 50 mls ( from a vet shop, used to dose livestock orally, cost about €2.50 euro). 4 shots of 50 mls and put the bung back on, takes less than 10 minutes.

    It will hold slightly more than 200mls to bring it to the fill hole level, but the manual says 200 mls so go with that.
    Be very careful with the fill hole bung... its made from chocolate and shears so easy.
    And use the oil that drm4rtin states and hopefully that does'nt start up another oil discussion on here :028:
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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #3 on: Jan 12, 2018, 12.14 am
    Jan 12, 2018, 12.14 am
    I have a current factory service manual and it says:

    Hypoid Gear Oil SAE #80
    Oil Capacity - 6.8 US oz / 7.0 Imp oz

    Check-Oil should be at the lower edge of the filler hole when the motorcycle is on it's sidestand.  Fill with motorcycle level (and it does say to do that on it's center stand as an extra clarifier.)

    Oil Filler Cap Torque - 8.0 Nm / 5.9 ft. lb

    Last Edit: Jan 12, 2018, 12.24 am by DEMBONES

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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #4 on: Jan 12, 2018, 01.53 am
    Jan 12, 2018, 01.53 am

    I must have an order version of the manual. It looks like they made the correction in your book. Mine states: Oil should be at the lower edge of the filler hole when the motorcycle is on a level surface in the upright position.
    Thanks for the info!

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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #5 on: Jan 12, 2018, 06.24 am
    Jan 12, 2018, 06.24 am
    *Originally Posted by DEMBONES [+]
    Check-Oil should be at the lower edge of the filler hole when the motorcycle is on it's sidestand.  Fill with motorcycle level (and it does say to do that on it's center stand as an extra clarifier.)

    If you fill final drive when bike is on centerstand and after that check the oil level putting bike on sidestand oil will obviously leak out!
    What's the point filling it on centerstand then?
    Would you please take a photo of the page in your service manual and post it here?

    p.s.: my (2012) service manual states:
    "Fill the gear case with recommended oil to the lower edge of the filler hole (page 3-19)."
    and here is 3-19 page

    Last Edit: Jan 12, 2018, 06.28 am by Juggler

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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #6 on: Jan 12, 2018, 09.48 am
    Jan 12, 2018, 09.48 am
    The bike normally moves whilst in the vertical and level position, why fill it on the side stand with the bike leant over - doesn't make sense - or am I just being thick?
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    Re: Final Drive Oil Change question
    Reply #7 on: Jan 12, 2018, 12.39 pm
    Jan 12, 2018, 12.39 pm
    To clarify a few things -
    200mls to us Europeans is the same as 6.8 US oz, 7.0 Imp oz.

    Juggler's post is for " Oil level check ", it is not for- changing the oil.

    When changing - put the bike on the side stand and open the "drain bung" at the bottom, it is at the outer side of the cardan unit so the oil will run to there while on the side stand. Hence all the oil will drain.
    When done draining, replace the drain bolt and torque it to 12 N m.
    You will now find it easier to fill when the bike is level. So open the fill bolt and insert 200mls of SAE 80 Hypoid gear oil.
    I have done this job a few times, I use a 50ml syringe to fill as there's not a single drop spilled, 4 x 50 mls in and the job is done. If you lean/ put the bike on the side stand now, you will find the level is slightly below the lower edge of the oil fill hole - its a tiny amount. At this point I am happy 200mls is in so I replace the cap and Torque it to 8 N m.
    You will notice its a lower Torque figure for the fill cap than the drain cap
    Last Edit: Jan 12, 2018, 12.48 pm by thetrecker
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