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Bit of interesting reading on Motorcycle actual weights
« on: September 24, 2012, 05:42:48 AM »
Went to weight the CT today, fully fueled and the weight was 278KG, sorry no picture as i left my camera in the Top box at home like a twat!
Mine is the SE model so you could take approx 4kg off for the center stand, 2kg for GPS, wiring and mounting bracket and 1kg for rear topbox bracket, 2kg engine bars and another 2/3 kg if using a slip on can, so about 266kg total if comparing against the R1200gs

Originally Posted by Half - Bac
Hi guys,

After the previous thread (53 pages) on the Super Tenere on this illustrious forum, and subsequent comments on this thread about bike weights in general, I have something to add.

First let me give you some of my credentials. I am the proud owner of a 2006 KTM 990 Adventure, had it since new and have done 31000km's on it, mostly off road. Loved every kilometre and love my bike. I am an avid adventure and dirt biker. I also have a contract with Yamaha Distributors South Africa to handle all their motorcycle public relations. It is a consequence of this relationship that I have had access to the silver Super Tenere (photo posted on the "Photo's from AMID" thread) for the last three weeks. (It was I that took it down to Jan Staal etc.)

With all this opinion on bike weights being bandied about, I thought that I would take the opportunity to get the relevant bikes weighed in an as objective a manner as reasonably possible.
To this end I arranged last week to get a privately owned BMW GS1200 Adventure, a privately owned BMW GS1200, my personal KTM 990 Adventure, and the Super Tenere to a bike scale that was made available by Gary Franks of Enduro World.

Let me first explain the criteria that was adopted to keep the weigh-in as objective as possible, plus the various considerations for variation for each bike.

All bikes were weighed "wet" - with a ful tank of fuel. Bikes were fueled full from the same pump and the same time, and all travelled 1,2km post refuel to the scale.
All panniers, top boxes etc were removed for the weigh-in.
The scale was claimed to be calebrated, however I did not witness the calebration. But even if it was not 100% accurate, the same level of inaccuracy would at least be applied to all the bikes.

The GSA has a 33 litre tank, 10 litres more than the next closest bike, giving it a 8(?) kilo disadvantage just in fuel weight. It had an Akropovic pipe on, giving it a benefit in weight with the std Cat removed. It also had all the crash protection and pannier racks on (std on a GSA I think)

The GS has a 20 litre tank. It also had ABS fitted, but none of the other optional extras offered by BMW. Fitted with the Remus slip on, thus also benefitting from no Cat.

The KTM 990 Adventure has a 20 litre tank, is fitted with ABS, sterring damper and crash bars, and also has Leo Vince slip ons fitted, once again giving benefit from the the double Cat's being removed.

The Super Tenere has a 23 litre tank, had an alluminium bash plate, head light protector and pannier racks fitted, but with standard zorst, including Cat.

Here are a findings per bike (photo evidence posted below)

BMW GS 1200 Adventure.

Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 259kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 273kg's

Yamaha Super Tenere

Claimed weight (wet): 261kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 268kg's

BMW GS 1200

Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 229kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 242kg's

KTM 990 Adventure

Claimed weight (Dry): 209kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 240kg's

As you can see, the results of this exercise proved very interesting. I think at the end of the day, once you have had to pick any of these bikes up for the third time in one tiring ride, they are all heavy.

I have posted this info only because, judging by the comments by Dawgs here, it appears to be a topic of interest. I have no agenda, just "objective as reasonably possible" facts to share. I hope it helps.

« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 05:53:00 AM by revenue »

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Re: Bit of interesting reading on Motorcycle actual weights
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 09:28:34 AM »
... that is an interesting read, thanks.
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Re: Bit of interesting reading on Motorcycle actual weights
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 10:53:31 AM »
Great post - I have to say that the weight and height of these bikes is a little intimidating for me at low speed and to maneuver around. I gues it comes down to technique.  It is interesting how the weight dissolves at speed.  I thought the CT would be lardy on the tight and twisty bits of road, however it feels as sharp as my old 195kg kTM RC8.  The CT looks ok off road as well.  I have seen some YouTube videos of guys doing jumps on the bike.